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July 13, 2007
From the NYTimes: Executions Are Under Way in Iran for Adultery and Other Violations
(Note from me: I don't think anyone should ever compare Christian extremists to Muslim extremists (as a lot of my fellow liberals stupidly do). You see, whereas Pat Robertson would like to strip me of my right to marry or adopt, millions of sons of Allah would like to stone me to death in a public square. For me, there's a huge difference.)
By NAZILA FATHI
July 11, 2007
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/11/world/middleeast/11iran.html
TEHRAN, July 10 — The Iranian government confirmed Tuesday that a man was executed by stoning last week for committing adultery, and said that 20 more men would be executed in the coming days on morality violations.
A judiciary spokesman, Alireza Jamshidi, told reporters on Tuesday that a death sentence by stoning had been carried out last week near the city of Takestan, west of Tehran, despite an order by the chief of the judiciary, Ayatollah Mahmoud Shahroudi, not to permit such executions.
“The verdict was final, and so it was carried out for the man but not for the woman,” the ISNA news agency quoted Mr. Jamshidi as saying.
He said the 20 additional executions were for such things as “rape, insulting religious sanctities and laws, and homosexuality.” Most executions in Iran are hangings, often in public and at the scenes of the alleged crimes.
The police arrested about 1,000 people in May during a so-called morality crackdown. Mr. Jamshidi said 15 more men were being tried on similar charges and could receive death sentences.
The daily newspaper Etemad Melli reported Monday that Jaffar Kiani, 47, who had been convicted of adultery, was executed by stoning on Thursday in the cemetery of a small village near Takestan. “Villagers said the sentence was carried out by the local judge and authorities,” the newspaper reported.
Mr. Kiani and his partner, Mokarameh Ebrahimi, 43, who has two children, were scheduled to die on June 21, but the execution was put off by Ayatollah Shahroudi.
Posted by Michael at July 13, 2007 02:54 PM
Comments
Different problems demand different remedies.
When considering the differences between various extremes of religious beliefs . . . and the believers' zeal for injecting those beliefs into politics . . . it's helpful to think in terms of medical metaphores.
A cancer requires a different form of treatment than a gall bladder attack.
People who incorrectly assert that Fundamentalist Christians in the US are as bad as Muslims following the Koran and the Hadith are doing the equivalent of saying that because gall bladder attacks happen, you shouldn't try to treat and cure a cancer.
When you have to treat a gall bladder attack, it is not relevant to talk about cancer, and vice versa. Likewise, bringing up the subject of Fundamentalist Christians is not relevant to the problems posed by Koran-crazed Muslims. It's not that you should never think about the problems posed by the Fundie Christians; it's that they present an entirely separate . . . and when objectively viewed . . . less deadly set of problems. As horrifying as the executions in Iran are, they were carried out by people following the letter of the Koran and the Hadith. What part of that do people not understand? The Koran is equivalent to a cancer, where and whenever people have been brainwashed by it.
Posted by: Tight Hole at July 14, 2007 01:18 PM
This report is sickening.
But we should be even more concerned about how the Bush regime has placed us in much graver danger vis-a-vis the Islamic threat than we were before that regime stole power.
People who don't realize that the above statement is a fact have not been doing their duty of getting reports on events from reliable, Bush-propaganda-free sources.
I'm not the kindergarten teacher, either, here to give an A-B-C education on this matter.
However, it is wrong to be complacent in the face of the Islamic threat. The Muslim enemy is not going to follow up 9/11 with an attack of lesser scope.
Michael Chertoff, head of Homeland Security, has said that al-Qaeda has regrouped and exceeded its pre-9/11 capabilities WITHIN the borders of the US.
Yet Bush is still carrying on with his rhetoric about how the US must fight al-Qaeda in Iraq, in order that the US not have to fight al-Qaeda within US borders.
Bush is as dangerous to the US as is the Islamic threat, because his strategy against it fails to provide long-term protection for us within our borders even as that strategy motivates more, not less, Muslims to join actively in specifically anti-US jihad.
Americans have a responsibility . .. to themselves and to the world . . . to repudiate the Bush regime, and to stop it from doing more damage than it has done, weakening the US and thereby placing the whole non-Muslim world in profounder danger from the Islamic threat.
But Americans are, in their majority, neglecting that responsibility.
Posted by: Maura Collins at July 15, 2007 12:09 PM
Horror,
I almost would go volunteer as a solder in Iran. But I don't think that is a great difference with christian right, they did their show in the holocaust, and continue to attack us and kill us, and the republicans are going to veto HATE CRIMES BILL, so do republicans want to protect us, or what one pope in the 1970's said, Homosexuals are responsilbe to any reaction to them that straight people have, I am paraftasing obviously, but that same idea is behing not backing tha have crimes....
Posted by: george at July 16, 2007 03:07 PM
Mr. Lucas, please see this link for a sad report... http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2007/07/phoboquotable-terry-mangum.html
Posted by: Bare at July 17, 2007 01:33 PM
