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July 03, 2005

Green Party

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I recently got an e-mail from someone who
responded
to my entry on gay Republicans:

“I am not gay, Republican, or Democrat. I personally don’t believe in giving my mind away to a certain political ideology… But I voted ‘Green’ for two consecutive seasons. I am a straight female who’s also a gay rights activist…

I personally cannot understand how a gay person can be a Republican, but what have the Dems done? Did Kerry support gay marriage? Did Clinton support gay marriage?”

Yes, sadly that’s all true (well, almost). Clinton did support “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, ” he was also was the one to sign the “Defense of Marriage Act,” and yes, Democrats do take the gay vote for granted.

But darling, at the end of the day what you did was worse, you threw away your vote.

I went to a Kerry fundraiser last year. It was nice. More than 200 people wearing clothes that cost more than the GDP of a small African country. The dinner was a few thousand dollars a plate, and of course the guest of honor, Mr. Kerry himself was there.

Kerry knew this would not be his most enthusiastic audience. He was openly against same sex marriage and the crowd was predominantly gay. But at one point, he said something that stuck with me. He stood up and said, “I understand I’m not you’re ideal candidate and I know we don’t necessarily agree on every issue, but I have three words for you: ‘The. Supreme. Court’”

Applause…

Sandra Day OConnor
This Friday Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O’Connor announced she’s leaving after 25 years on the bench. A moderate conservative, she was the swing vote in many issues including abortion. To add salt to injury, Chief Justice William Rehnquist is expected to retire as well (thyroid cancer) and in his place we’re getting Antonin.

So here’s my question to the lovely straight lady who sent me this e-mail above: Did you think of that before you threw away your vote and gave it to some ego-maniac idiot? Did you even bother to think of the bigger picture? This is a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face, only you’ve cut all our noses in the process.

Here’s a little suggestion, snap out of it. Realize that sometimes you need to be practical, and that politics is not for children. So, grow up, stop with the hissy-fits and next time, do the right thing. If not for yourself, than for the rest of us.

Love

Michael

Posted by Michael at July 3, 2005 10:26 AM

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Comments

Ok. So I was going to refrain from hashing out politics with a porn-mogul, not only because it is ridiculous, but it’s a waste of time. But, my combative side got the best of me.

Although, voting outside of the 2 party system may seem like “throwing away your vote” in the short run…I am horrified that you would interpret voting for a 3rd candidate based solely on principles as foolish. A vote for a 3rd candidate is a vote against the 2 party system. Which in my book, is a good, good, thing.

This just shows how fucked up the 2 party system is. There is no in between. Yes, either you are for big government or you aren’t. Either you are for the gayz or you aren’t. Black and white choices lead to totalitarianism.

But what a serious thing for me to tell an uncircumcised porn jew. Enjoy the 4th you beautiful man. Love!
(Baby Daddy)

Posted by: Ed at July 3, 2005 12:28 PM

Or "cutting off your balls to spite your wife" as they say round here...

Posted by: gdm at July 3, 2005 12:45 PM

Okay, I understand about tactical (practical) voting and where you're coming from. You could argue that a Green vote would only make sense in a different electoral system - say Proportional Representation. But if we swallow our concerns and beliefs and vote for someone that doesn't promote them, how does anyone ever understand how many of us are out here? If a state had a noticable Green vote, even though they most likely would have "thrown their votes away", come the next election the two main parties would damn sure include some juicy green policies in their manifestos. It's about voting for your beliefs.

The Supreme Court thing is a bummer, though.

Posted by: Greg at July 3, 2005 06:14 PM

TO: Michael Lucas
FROM: “Lovely straight lady”
RE: My Response To Your Blog Entry Dedicated To Me


Funny thing—something just told me to visit your blog, so I did...And what do I see? A whole entry dedicated to this lovely straight lady. I’m all emotional Michael.

My emotion: laughter! Ha! Ha!

I will attempt to respond to you accordingly…


RESPONSE #1
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“Yes, sadly that’s all true (well, almost). Clinton did support “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, ” he was also was the one to sign the “Defense of Marriage Act,” and yes, Democrats do take the gay vote for granted.” -M.Lucas

Let me just focus on the Defense of Marriage Act of 1996 here.

The DOMA paved the way for the so-called marriage protecting bigots out there. The DOMA gave Bush and his anti-gay cronies a head start in the whole process for “protecting marriage and defending family values”. It’s awfully hypocritical of you to condemn Republicans while shrugging off the damage caused by the Democrats. DOMA created a FEDERAL DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE for the very first time in the history of America. It wasn’t Nixon. It wasn’t Reagan. It wasn’t Bush. Sr. It wasn’t Bush Jr. It was PRESIDENT WILLIAM J. CLINTON. Clinton gave them the weapon, and they’re using it to wage a right-wing war against the GBLT community.

If you can truly look at yourself in the mirror and say: “I support equal rights for homosexuals”, then you can’t possibly take the actions of Clinton with a grain of salt. Because of the signing of the DOMA, equal marriage activists are fighting an even harder battle in order to preserve the rights of homosexuals. Homosexuals have to battle this one state at a time, and then having deal with fighting the DOMA for federal protection.
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RESPONSE #2
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“But darling, at the end of the day what you did was worse; you threw away your vote.” -M.Lucas

Actually, DARLING, I put my vote to good use because I consciously voted for the party I felt best support my views. I exercised my basic human right to support the party of MY choice.

An example of people throwing away their votes would be the countless Americans (you included) blindly supporting a party, regardless if they support your cause or not. Those who feel pressured to subject themselves to the “lesser of the two evils” scam are the ones throwing their votes away.

Do you know the PM of Canada didn’t support gay marriage until 2003 when he realized his party was on the verge of dying? Prior to that, he voted to uphold the traditional definition of marriage. Because of the scandalous (see sponsorship scandal among other things) ways of the Liberal Party, a lot of left-wing thinking Canadians were turning to the less powerful New Democratic Party because they seemed more promising. And the leader of the NDP, Jack Layton is a strong advocate for same-sex-marriage. He was the main one fighting for equal marriage for homosexuals. And due to the growth of the NDP, Martin allied himself with the NDP so he can win back his supporters who flocked to the NDP as well as gain more. From there he made gay marriage his top priority to the point where he became utterly obsessed with the whole thing.

It was the lesser powerful NDP who fought for gay marriage, NOT the Liberal Party of Canada. Paul Martin was not the fighter in this one, Jack Layton was. Paul Martin acted based on his own political interests. He’s a businessman, so he used the “can’t beat them join them (or in his case, buy them) strategy to win over the people of Canada.

He ordered all of the members of his cabinet to vote in favor of the bill and that is why one of his cabinet members resigned, just to vote against it. All but one NDP member voted in favor. And the other smaller party of Quebec voted for it.

This is a prime example of how the power of the free-thinking people can make a difference and speed up the process. If you can’t hear me, I will speak louder until you do. And, unfortunately, the Democratic Party isn’t hearing you because you aren’t speaking loud enough. You are pissing, shitting, spitting, and “diarrhea-ing” in the same fountain you drink from, LucASS.
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RESPONSE #3
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“Kerry knew this would not be his most enthusiastic audience. He was openly against same sex marriage and the crowd was predominantly gay. But at one point, he said something that stuck with me.” -M.Lucas

And what does this validate? A bunch of homosexuals at a dinner with a candidate who doesn’t support them is quite common in this backwards world we live in. Your gay republican friend, remember?

Remember you said:

“Well I have a few questions for gay Republicans myself: how can you support a party that still thinks being gay is a choice? How can you cast a vote for an administration who can take you taxes with a stretched hand but obliterates your rights while reciting the bible? How do you wake up in the morning knowing that at least three more Supreme Court justices will be appointed by this imbecile, practically sending Stonewall into the Stone Age?”

If you can ask you gay Republicans that question, I can ask you the same exact thing:

How can you? How can you support a party that doesn’t support you? So you go and have a high profile dinner with Mr. Kerry, where your outfit and dinner equaled the GDP of Russia, and you’re complaining about a gay Republican? How hypocritical of you.

Bottom Line:

Gay Republican Friend Supports Bush + Bush is against Gay Marriage = HYPOCRITICAL

Michael Lucas Supports Kerry + Kerry is against Gay Marriage = HYPOCRITICAL

The difference, Mr. Lucas? There isn’t any difference…:P

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RESPONSE #4
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“But at one point, he said something that stuck with me. He stood up and said, “I understand I’m not you’re ideal candidate and I know we don’t necessarily agree on every issue, but I have three words for you: ‘The. Supreme. Court”"
-M.Lucas

The DOMA prohibits Federal America from recognizing same-sex marriages and the FEDERAL benefits that come along with it(What a shame!), so gays have to rely on the Supreme Court to strike it down. Yes, O’Connor was quite moderate compared to the rest, but that doesn’t mean her decision would have been moderate on this particular issue. Her moderate decisions were mainly based on women issues such as abortion. Her personal experience as a woman shaped her views which contributed to her decisions.

The fact is Bush is in office so whether you like him or not, it’s his duty to nominate someone. And he’s going to nominate someone who shares his ideology. (Wouldn’t you?). But if Clinton never signed the DOMA, it wouldn’t have to be this hard. So, Clinton made it even harder. O’Connor was in her retiring age, so she did just that. No one could have prevented her from retiring. But the blind support for Clinton could have prevented him from signing that oppressive bill into law.

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RESPONSE #5

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“So here’s my question to the lovely straight lady who sent me this e-mail above: Did you think of that before you threw away your vote and gave it to some ego-maniac idiot? Did you even bother to think of the bigger picture? This is a classic case of cutting off your nose to spite your face, only you’ve cut all our noses in the process.” -M.Lucas

Yes, I am quiet lovely. Yes, I am straight. And I’m a lady depending on my mood... ;-)

I assume the ‘ego-maniac idiot’ is Ralph Nader? I voted for Nader the first time, but his party nominated David Cobb the second time. Cobb has been fighting extra hard for homosexuals. Unlike Clinton and Kerry who’s not that much different from Bush.
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RESPONSE #6
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"Here’s a little suggestion, snap out of it. Realize that sometimes you need to be practical, and that politics is not for children. So, grow up, stop with the hissy-fits and next time, do the right thing. If not for yourself, than for the rest of us." -M.Lucas

Baby, I admire your spunk. I admire your outspokenness, but your level of ignorance is quite appalling. Loud, proud, and ignorant is no good. Be loud, be proud, but make sure your opinions are based on sound facts instead of ignorance. This is not another one of your fuck movies, so don't take it so lightly...


Back to the topic at hand:

Although I’m not too fond of marriage, I still have that option to marry if I ever choose to. But can you marry your man in NYC, dearly darling? I’m under no obligation to align myself with the gay community, but as a humanitarian, I DO. The foundation of any movement is always the oppressed group, however it becomes an ever bigger movement when members of the oppressing group joins in. So, yes, I am doing the right thing, not only for myself, BUT FOR THE REST OF YOU.

Refusing to nurture the ego of the American bipartisan system IS doing the right thing. And that is what you need to understand. You don’t intimidate me, Lucas. You’re just another sensitive and pretentious homo.

Peace, Love, and Michael Lucas!

-Nadege R

PS: I go to stonewall with my gay friend periodically, and I heard you're there sometimes. If I ever see you there, make sure you ask me for a dance…I’m usually on the second floor shaking my ass with those sexy homos! *wet kisses*
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Posted by: N.R at July 3, 2005 08:43 PM

I still don't understand all your hate toward Bush. He has done more for this country than the last 2 Dems combined. In the long run gay marriage is not this countries biggest issue right now. It also cannot be assumed the all gay men are Dems, those that are just seem to be louder than the rest. Why is gay marriage such an important thing? Should love be bound by a piece of paper? I don't think that proves anything.

Posted by: the Yankee at July 4, 2005 12:21 AM

sadly, it is true that voting third party is throwing your vote away, but it also makes a statement by giving more attention to that party. people will see the increasing relevance of the third party, and hopefully we can get out of this fucking two-party system. here in my unfortunate home state of ohio, the state to which it all came down, nader wasn't even an option and the other candidates (such as badnarik) received far less than the difference between kerry and bush. this is all according to the data i found, but who knows with guys like taft and blackwell in charge.

i understand that in times like these, when so much was on the line, we cannot always go for our ideal candidate, we kinda just have to bite our tongues and vote for the lesser of two evils. however, many people are sick and tired of this set-up and want a change. being in the battleground state of ohio, i just decided i couldn't risk it, and ended up voting for kerry.

i like what you said kerry said about how he may not be our ideal candidate but there's always the supreme court (even though that may be going to the shitter soon). i like this honesty from him, i hadn't heard him say anything like that during the election process.

also, just wanna add, i really enjoy your blog. you're a smart insightful guy. you've got a big head, but hey we all do sometimes. i often find that i don't agree with what you say, but at least you're honest, and i admire that.

Posted by: zach at July 4, 2005 11:18 AM

I couldn't agree with you more Michael! This new twist with the Supreme Court is not good news for us at all. I have always thought about the Supreme Court and how much power they hold. That is why I vote Democratic. I don't know what I'm going to do if they start to make rulings that completely undermine my reasons for being an American. Freedom is something I value and do not take for granted, and I hope they don't take away any of mine, or yours. Or...I'll be making a move up north!

Posted by: Roy at July 4, 2005 04:50 PM